Oh snap, it’s the biggest internet leak of all time! The KFC secret 11 herbs and spices recipe has been revealed! Now get out there and start making delicious fried chicken! But don’t forget your pressure fryer since that ingredient is probably more important than any of these.
Well, now I know–I can leave the nasty MSG out (that stuff has seriously bad side effects for many people) and make me some good fried chicken! I wouldn’t mind getting a bucket of KFC now and then, except the MSG makes me wheeze and have stomach problems better neither imagined nor described.
Actually, that’s not true. MSG is widely used worldwide as a flavor enhancer and received a bad rap in the US when it was associated with Chinese food. The FDA found that reports of illness from MSG were actually caused by poorly cooked food and there was no correlation between MSG and any side effects (thus why MSG wasn’t banned). But, by that time, the damage was done. MSG had a bad rap that was over publicized and dramatized. Same thing that happened with Toyota a few years ago – turns out there really wasn’t a brake issue – there was a 24 hour media publicity issue.
You have no idea what you are talking about. MSG and Aspartame our neurotoxens that have debilitating side effects. Google- MSG poison. How can anyone eat this crap? No wonder the country is so fat.
It is apparent Pirate has not done their homework…Jesus…
Everything you read on the intarweb is totally true and 100% reliable, quotable fact. Especially the reliable truefacts that you find on quacky, crunchy, new-age diet websites.
You should Google yourself; you’d see a picture of a retard. MSG is in all kinds of food: “roquefort cheese, parmesan cheese, soy sauce, walnuts, fresh tomato juice, grape juice, peas, mushrooms, broccoli, tomatoes, mushrooms, oysters, corn, potatoes, chicken, mackerel, beef, eggs, and human milk.” The taste for it was brought back by American soldiers after WWII. Your equating MSG to aspartame is ridiculous. MSG has been around forever: aspartame has not. Your pseudo-science spawned attitude is so typically American.
Also, people who eat MSG tend to eat less, so your assumption that MSG makes people fat is totally erroneous. By your logic the entire continent of Asia should drop into the Earth’s crust from the weight of all those fat Asians with headaches.
Read the China Study book on obesity and food causes. It is not all on the internet. Your doctor may be willing to discuss these issues with you. It is not naturally produced MSG, it is the adulterated opposite twisted version of the protien that only occurs in manufactured versions of MSG that act a a neurotoxin. The normal, left twisted protien is easily handled by your body. Same with the fake sugars.
Did you see the Dr Oz episode describe the massive average weight gain of amercian woman since 1946. talk about fat Mama, the grand kids are destined to be even larger. Amercia is killing itself with obesity, lack of english ability in kids, a culture that can not down size, corruption, killings – think Philadelphia, kids gunned down in high school, companies going to the wall, a war that it can ill afford…God truly help America
I thought this post was getting a bit too far off topic with all the MSG pundits voicing their “expert” opinions, but you Kevin have surpassed them all with your God help America rant!!!
We were just wondering what ingredients went into the KFC chicken recipe. Get a life. That goes for the rest of you freaks too.
Your body actually produces tens of times more glutamates (the non-salt ingredient in MSG) in a day than you would eat if you ate KFC 3 times a day. Double-blind tests have shown people eating food they believed had MSG in it and developing the “symptoms”, only to be shown that what they ate actually contained no MSG and that they were being delusional. MSG might not taste very good (in my opinion) but it’s not hurting you.
Yep, the FDA says that if there is no discernible reaction in 1/2 hour then there is no issue.
It often takes at least an hour to get an Aspartame headache.
I have seen MSG reactions that last as long as or don’t even show until as much as 48 hours later. Yes, these observations are repeatable. There are many studies done on this, but the food lobby has way more money. Try MSGtruth.org and MSGmyth.com
I have found out that since MSG is a wheat based food, people with Celiac Disease and wheat allergies can get very sick from it, as with soy sauce and other condiments with wheat as an ingredient.
MSG occurs naturally in a lot of foods, including soy sauce (explaining the sensitivity to it as well). It’s more of an intolerance than an allergy. Some MSG is corn based, resulting in people who have a corn intolerance to have stomach issues to it.
No MSG is not wheat based. MSG additives are made from sugar beet, corn sugar or sugar cane. Not wheat. Soy sauce has MSG AND wheat based products and therin lies your reaction to soy sauce and other condiments such as teriyaki and chilli sauces. MSG additive is exactly that – an additive. In a bid for people to eat healthier additives are given a bad name due to some people having reactions to them. Celiacs cannot consume gluten yet others can. Gluten isn’t given a bad name because it has been handled correctly and correctly diagnosed. MSG intolerance depends on the individual response to it as does gluten in my humble opinion. Japan is the healthiest country in the world and funnily enough. It is where MSG was born. They use it alot and being some of the healthiest and slimmest people in the world (due to other reasons than MSG of course) it hasn’t damaged their health or caused mass scale obesity through the country either. America (the biggest and best example) was a prosperous and rich coutry after the second world war. This prosperity extended to everything and as alot of people moved there to get some prosperity of their own. The amount of food americans consume is staggering compared to other nations and as such this gorging is what causes obesity and not things such as additives and MSG. MSG causes side effects not obesity! The side effects don’t cause obesity either. Over indulging is. Look at the average portion size of anything in America compared to Japan and you will be amazed. Americans eat that much today because they know no different. A bag of crisps has always been that size as has a pizza so why would they do any different. Things are bigger because there is plenty to go around (Or was before recessions and financial troubles etc.) and has been for quite sometime. If the manufacturers of food stuffs decreased portion sizes and made them just a little more expensive people would eat less due to not being able to afford to and as such people wouldn’t starve but consume safer levels and thus become used to it again over time. Buy a bag of crisps in England and a bag in America and it is a noticable difference as is the sizes of things like pizza, restaurant meals etc. England consume more than is needed too hence obesity happening too. People in Africa eat very little and they still survive and have little to no body fat to sustain them either. Yes they struggle too – alot. But eating somewhere in between. Like Japan. Is the way to beat obesity. America was just an example. Not all people in America are fat and they have some of the best medical facilities and statistics in the world and also some of the fittest and best athletes too. Just to state that I am not attacking the American nation. I am stating fact as I see it. MSG is in many things in it’s natural state and as such in safe levels is safe to consume. If you eat too much MSG in it’s raw form you will feel the known side effects more easily but thats what they are – side effects which your body experiences for a period of time, not forever. Japan and china consume masses of it and are ok with it. KFC is a bad company. Its methods of production get bad press accross the board but the cooking and ingredients make a great tasting product and when cooked well is fantastic. That is why they are global and a market leader. I will continue to eat KFC and MSG in moderate amounts like everything I consume. So should everyone else in my opinion. On the subject of glutamate it may not be essential but it is natural and consuming it has been natural in many guises for as long as the human race has been deemed a civilised one. I went way off topic and came back again. The recipe tastes great from KFC and at home too. Try it with a tsp of mustard powder and a tsp of coriander powder (preferably seeds ground fresh – both). A nice rounded natural umami flavour with those additions! ENJOY we don’t live forever. If you’ve already indulged more than you should in one thing and destroyed the balance in your life – go without for a while and re balance yourself. The key to a good life is everything you enjoy do in moderation and for everthing you do enjoy do something that is just good for you!
Ummm, the FDA is government run (aka corrupted) agency that lets so many toxic chemicals in our skin and mouths it’s sickening. MSG is most certainly a toxin. The FDA could give you study results & professional opinions that drinking gasoline is perfectly fine too, if they had the incentive or instruction to do so.
Yeah, that’s why people don’t live as long as they used to!
Oh, wait…
I LOVE how this turned into an MSG debate after a ‘humble’ KFC recipe. Seriously…. if you’re going to worry about MSG, i think you should worry more about driving your goddamn car, you’re statistically almost infinitely more likely to kill yourself. There are far more dangerous things than MSG. Get a reliable source of info and not some quacks on the internet who hold so called degrees and diplomas.
Actually, for the first time in a long time my generation (born 1987-1992) is expected to have a decrease in the average age of mortality.
Also, I am not concerned with MSG as a toxin, but you need to be aware that it’s being used against you in a very deceitful way. MSG may be naturally occurring, and if the chemical wasn’t being artificially created in a lab I wouldn’t have a problem with it. MSG in it’s natural state gives a flavor that seems to tie the other flavors together. This is very essential to eastern food culture such as Thai who try to incorporate all five tastes into every meal.
MSG is produced in America as a food additive. Why? Because MSG prevents hormones in your stomach from telling your brain that it is full. Normally it takes 30 minutes for your brain to register that your stomach is full, unless you’ve eaten cruciferous vegetables that may cause bloating or gas.
This is an affect that I have noticed consistently with snack foods. I’ve eaten potato chips and wondered why I suddenly lost all care for moderation. Normally I eat small portions throughout the day, but certain junk foods alter how I think while I’m eating. Every single time this has happened I’ve checked the ingredients and sure enough monosodium glutamate was one of the first half of items on the ingredient list.
MSG will not make you fat, and it will not likely affect your heart and blood pressure. However, it IS a conduit for increased consumption which CAN cause obesity and increased blood pressure.
We do not live in a country that actively cares for our health. We are a capitalist country, not a democracy. If something seems funny, you will always find a paper trail in America. If people will buy it, someone will sell it. That is the backbone of our country as we now stand. The FDA can no longer be trusted to protect you, please see Kevin’s Law which is trying to be passed, the aftermath of the Jack-in-the-box e. Coli breakout. The FDA has been stripped of all power from the Congressmen who were former elites in the industrial agriculture we now rely so heavily on. This is what has allowed HFCS to enter into every food, these former CEOs and board members have allowed their old companies to receive government subsidation to sell their products below production value. Corn and soybeans are Americas new cash crop and the by-products are being poured into the American diet to ensure they remain a prosperous crop. Power companies like Monsanto are out to preserve their own wealth and they bear no concern for what they leave in their wake.
This original post was bound to bring controversy. It’s our first amendment right to fight for what we believe in, especially something as passionate about our health. The fact that so many people are in an uproar shows that more and more people are waking up to the lies we are fed by the industrial agriculture companies. We used to preach to the children to “Wake up!” about the problems. I’m glad to say more people have woken up, but now it’s time to get out of bed and actually fight for organic, sustainable farming. Fight for artificial flavors and colors to be removed. Fight to feed our cattle natural food, not corn. And we need to fight with a sense of moderation in our diet and stop buying these foods. This is a CAPITALIST country, if we stop giving them our money then they have no power
Wake up. Get out of bed. Tell the world your sick of it’s shit.
I tend to avoid MSG after a “bad trip” from eating at a Vietnamese-Cambodian restaurant. The lunch started with large bowls of soup, evidently loaded with MSG. I spent the next five hours back at the office feeling like was going to climb the walls — like a crazy mix of too much caffeine and a good measure of psychosis thrown in. MSG is known as “Aji no Moto” in Japan. It is so widely used that Japanese, as a nation, are chronically on the verge of psychosis. You really don’t know what you’re talking about, Pirate.
Wow, aside from MSG this is pretty basic. I actually have all of this in my garden. Somehow I expected more…
You grow salt in your garden?
MSG is a type of salt anyway, don’t be such a smart ass
the reason KFC tastes so good is not ebcause of the 11 herbs and spices. it’s because of the process it’s been through. it is first deep fried in a pressure cooker, then battered, and then frozen, then deep fried again before serving.
Actually, as a former KFC employee, I have to say: The chicken comes fresh from whoever the company buys the chicken from (goldkist in my area’s case), and is stored in cases in a walk-in refridgerator. From there, it is battered, and pressure fried. From the frier, it goes to a warmer to wait to be served to the customers. The regular bone-in chicken is not frozen at any point during the process. The strips, on the other hand, arrive marinated and frozen. They are not frozen after being fried, and nothing is battered post-frying.
There is know d in refrigerator
There is no ‘know’ in ‘no.’
Actually, it’s a pressure FRYER, not a pressure COOKER. There are significant differences in construction, and the seals are made to withstand high temperature oil, at much higher temperatures than the seals of an ordinary pressure cooker. If you value your life, DON’T try to pressure fry chicken in your average Presto Industries home pressure cooker!!
No, accually its not, i work for KFC and Its fresh chicken,not frozen and not already battered, It’s First battered, Then Pressure cooked one time before serving, and it’s finger lickin’ good
bollocks. Iv’e worked at KFC and the cooking process only occurs once using fresh chicken. I think that your dream is inaccurate!!!!!
People can still be allergic to it. As I am. I don’t think it’s bad for everyone, just those who are allergic. I’m also allergic to soy sauce.
You can’t be allergic to MSG because that would mean you’re allergic to Glutamate, which is an essential amino acid needed for living things to function.
Some people have allergic skin reactions to water, so I wouldn’t be surprised that some people are also allergic to MSG.
Yeah, the Wicked Witch of the West had a water allergy. Sadly she didn’t make it.
Why, oh why, do you repeat such mindless nonsense?
Glutamic acid is a non-essential amino acid, not an essential one. But you’re right that you can’t be allergic to it. Though you could be sensitive to it. Some bodies don’t work properly, and have a hard time converting it to a usable form.
…Yeah..they probably eat a lot of fried chicken..
Omg….go to the top of this convo. We r way off now. We went from kfc to china, acid, msg, etc etc…..u all r hilarious
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/12/msg-allergy-chinese-restaurant-syndrome-myth
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/12/msg-allergy-chinese-restaurant-syndrome-myth
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/12/msg-allergy-chinese-restaurant-syndrome-myth
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Some years ago some journalists had the batter mixture analyzed. It contained flour, salt, pepper and MSG– none of these herbs.
It MAY have contained all eleven ingredients when Harlan Sanders started franchising his recipe, but was probably simplified to save money sometime after he sold his entire operation in 1964. To keep competition off-balance the company continued to build the mystique of the “secret recipe”.
Not really. This recipe, in mostly the same order (with a little less paprika the only difference) was posted a couple years ago here:
http://www.wonderhowto.com/wonderment/colonel-sanders-kfc-recipe-revealed-0118355/
NOOOOOOOOO That’s only 10!!!!!!!!! WHAT IS THE ELEVENTH SPICE?!?!?!?!?!!?
rat poison
What are you raving about? I count eleven ingredients.
Can’t anyone taste the cinamon?
Oh I miscounted. But two types of salt? That’s cheating.
Onion salt is not a type of salt, it is onion powder with salt added.
This is the same recipe that they embalmed the Colonel with.
i have a friend that years ago worked for a company that would process cow hooves.. and they would take those cow hooves (purchased from slaughter houses) clean them and sterilize them and sell them to pet stores and various retailers that would feature these cow hooves in their stores..and i didn’t believe this myself when he told me this but, his company sold their product to a company that mixed up all the ingredients for KFC , and that company would take these cow hooves and grind them into a very fine powder and then include it into the ingredients for the KFC original recipe..he was shocked when he first learned but he was dead serious and it wasn’t a joke to him, to him it was fact and something he didn’t think about because to him and the company he worked for, it was common knowledge..
Surely, you’re joking …
Yeah right. Maybe some other part of the chicken would be believeable, but I highly doubt they would use a different meat all together.
Does it really matter what the”11 Secret herbs and spices ” are ? It`s so unhealthy , none of us should be eating it !!!!!
So… what’s the source of this “recipe leak”? Someone just threw this up on the internet as the secret recipe and everyone believes it? Really?
Maybe someone paid to have a sample analyzed by a laboratory. It would be easy enough to do. The spice mix comes from a central warehouse in sealed packets, ready to use, and it wouldn’t be hard at all to get a cooperative KFC employee to provide a few grams. On the other hand, I have a friend who worked at KFC, and he claimed the secret spice mix was nothing more than salt, black pepper and MSG, and that the “11 herbs and spices” thing was just a gimmick to throw the competition off the scent. Maybe it was 11 herbs and spices originally when Harlan Sanders developed his recipe, but I can see greedy corporate management simplifying it to save money. MSG is a flavor enhancer, and it can mask a lot of mediocre cooking.
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I work in an analytical lab and it’s not that easy. Contrary to what the public watches on CSI, sample analysis is as much art as science. You don’t just throw it on, hit a button, and have a PERFECT answer in 15 seconds.
Food analysis will give basic chemicals, but but the separation techniques involved, time, etc. could easily put an analysis like this into the $10,000′s range. A good chef could taste it and tell most if not all of what is in it. Saw a “Hell’s Kitchen” episode where there was Minestrone soup and each person had to taste and identify what they could. One person got something like 8/10 ingredients, so it can be done.
Some people have a much better sense of taste than others. My sister, for example, can tell the difference between Philadelphia brand cream cheese and generic (which I would try to substitute to save money).
as a kfc employee thats wrong. there is 11 herbs and spices
Question is: Is this the recipe for the Original that was later modified? The chicken KFC sells now is not at all like what they used to sell in the 70s. Was the cooking process different then? Or the recipe?
I think the process of pressure frying matters greatly in the taste and most importantly the texture of the batter. Thats what makes the crust so much thicker than when using a normal fryer. Pressure frying is a very recent technique. This means they can cook quicker from fresh in house and not use part cooked frozen produce. I think the recipe will have been the same just the mothod has evolved with cuisine.
I think the chicken was cook using electrical pressure cooker and today they are using gas pressure cooker to reduce cost of production. The chicken parts used today is also different as in the 70s. The recipe use today could be the same as before.
Watched a TV show on the history behind KFC and they claim to use exactly the same secret recipe that the Colonel used, which today is kept in a vault with a list and 11 tubes of the herbs and spices. And the same pressure frying process is used but with technology! Not even the employees know what temperature they fry it at!
Actually it depends on what you are cooking, i know for a fact the original recipe chicken is cooked at 166 degrees celcius if you were cooking 2head of chicken which is 18 pieces of chicken and is cooked for 14 minutes in the fryer
I like chicken.
BEEF IS WHERE ITS AT
Yeah how about some KFBeef?
Everyone above must love kfc our you would not be trying to find out the recipe
msg is in almost every fast food so you have probably been injesting it for years
and giving up kfc because msg….. COME ON just enjoy your life
So there’s no chicken in the recipe? mmm….. must be a tricky one to make
So there’s no chicken in the recipe? mmm….. must be a tricky one to make
The famous recipe of the colonel’s with the 11 herbs and spices hasn’t been used in years. The sorrry chicken served today is a salty excuse for the original recipe. The present owners of the KFC franchise have ruined the wonderful chicken served in the 60′s. Young people today will never know how good it was when the colonel owned the franchise. The over salted garbage that you get today is a insult to the customers who have forgotten how good it was 30 years ago.
Yes I truly agree on this and really miss the good old taste I had.
ORIGINAL KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN FLAVOR FROM THE EARLY 70′S THIS IS IT, IN IT’S SIMPLEST FORM. 1 tsp – Herbes de Provence (thyme, marjoram, savoury, rosemary, hyssop, bay leaf)2 tsp – Garam masala (cumin, coriander, bay leaf, mace, cardamom, clove, cinnamon)1/2 tsp – white pepper1/2 tsp – black pepper2-3 tsp – salt2 cups of flourYou could probably leave out the hyssop or marjoram if you want to match the 11 herbs exactly.Double the spices if you want a stronger flavor.Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_spices_does_Colonel_Sanders_use_in_Kentucky_Fried_Chicken#ixzz1PYtVNfSV
ORIGINAL KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN FLAVOR FROM THE EARLY 70′S THIS IS IT, IN IT’S SIMPLEST FORM. 1 tsp – Herbes de Provence (thyme, marjoram, savoury, rosemary, hyssop, bay leaf)2 tsp – Garam masala (cumin, coriander, bay leaf, mace, cardamom, clove, cinnamon)1/2 tsp – white pepper1/2 tsp – black pepper2-3 tsp – salt2 cups of flourYou could probably leave out the hyssop or marjoram if you want to match the 11 herbs exactly.Double the spices if you want a stronger flavor.Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_spices_does_Colonel_Sanders_use_in_Kentucky_Fried_Chicken#ixzz1PYtVNfSV
every one has to have a sook get there word in, who gives a fuck about msg and whats good and whats not if your worried go neck yourself losers
Why did Dunkin Donuts get rid of their signature donut? The plain fry cake with the handle!! Un freakin believable!
No MSG is not wheat based. MSG additives are made from sugar beet, corn sugar or sugar cane. Not wheat. Soy sauce has MSG AND wheat based products and therin lies your reaction to soy sauce and other condiments such as teriyaki and chilli sauces. MSG additive is exactly that – an additive. In a bid for people to eat healthier additives are given a bad name due to some people having reactions to them. Celiacs cannot consume gluten yet others can. Gluten isn’t given a bad name because it has been handled correctly and correctly diagnosed. MSG intolerance depends on the individual response to it as does gluten in my humble opinion. Japan is the healthiest country in the world and funnily enough. It is where MSG was born. They use it alot and being some of the healthiest and slimmest people in the world (due to other reasons than MSG of course) it hasn’t damaged their health or caused mass scale obesity through the country either. America (the biggest and best example) was a prosperous and rich coutry after the second world war. This prosperity extended to everything and as alot of people moved there to get some prosperity of their own. The amount of food americans consume is staggering compared to other nations and as such this gorging is what causes obesity and not things such as additives and MSG. MSG causes side effects not obesity! The side effects don’t cause obesity either. Over indulging is. Look at the average portion size of anything in America compared to Japan and you will be amazed. Americans eat that much today because they know no different. A bag of crisps has always been that size as has a pizza so why would they do any different. Things are bigger because there is plenty to go around (Or was before recessions and financial troubles etc.) and has been for quite sometime. If the manufacturers of food stuffs decreased portion sizes and made them just a little more expensive people would eat less due to not being able to afford to and as such people wouldn’t starve but consume safer levels and thus become used to it again over time. Buy a bag of crisps in England and a bag in America and it is a noticable difference as is the sizes of things like pizza, restaurant meals etc. England consume more than is needed too hence obesity happening too. People in Africa eat very little and they still survive and have little to no body fat to sustain them either. Yes they struggle too – alot. But eating somewhere in between. Like Japan. Is the way to beat obesity. America was just an example. Not all people in America are fat and they have some of the best medical facilities and statistics in the world and also some of the fittest and best athletes too. Just to state that I am not attacking the American nation. I am stating fact as I see it. MSG is in many things in it’s natural state and as such in safe levels is safe to consume. If you eat too much MSG in it’s raw form you will feel the known side effects more easily but thats what they are – side effects which your body experiences for a period of time, not forever. Japan and china consume masses of it and are ok with it. KFC is a bad company. Its methods of production get bad press accross the board but the cooking and ingredients make a great tasting product and when cooked well is fantastic. That is why they are global and a market leader. I will continue to eat KFC and MSG in moderate amounts like everything I consume. So should everyone else in my opinion. On the subject of glutamate it may not be essential but it is natural and consuming it has been natural in many guises for as long as the human race has been deemed a civilised one. I went way off topic and came back again. The recipe tastes great from KFC and at home too. Try it with a tsp of mustard powder and a tsp of coriander powder (preferably seeds ground fresh – both). A nice rounded natural umami flavour with those additions! ENJOY we don’t live forever. If you’ve already indulged more than you should in one thing and destroyed the balance in your life – go without for a while and re balance yourself. The key to a good life is everything you enjoy do in moderation and for everthing you do enjoy do something that is just good for you!
Wow, this looks very hot and tasty, like wedang uwuh in my hometown. Wedang uwuh is one of the traditional drink of Indonesia which uses natural materials clove leaf and other unused. If you want to know the description and the recipe for free at:
http://indonesia-essential-oils.blogspot.com/
or
http://indonesia-essential-oils.blogspot.com/2011/07/wedang-uwuh-indonesia-traditional.html
oh.. buti nlng alam ko na… nakakagutom.. hahahaha
magtayo na nga lng nang restaurant..
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What a bunch of know-it-alls.Turn your computers off and go to bed.